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Hola Emer, sabes que no encontré el mail donde le pregunté por Isaías 53, tal vez le hice la pregunta a otro judío mesiánico, pero encontré un mail donde platiqué con Anders Branderud, un judío ortodoxo, en este mail le pregunté por el pasaje de Isaías 9:6 que habla de un mesías con personalidad de Dios, me remitió a unos enlaces que desgraciadamente ya no funcionan, o no sé si todos, bueno te pongo aquí lo que le pregunté y lo que respondió mientras sigo buscando el otro mail, yo estaba seguro de que era él...
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Comment:
What I understand on Isaiah 9:6 is the following:
6A child will be born for us.
A son will be given to us.
The government will rest on his shoulders.
He will be named:
Wonderful Counselor,
Mighty God,
Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace.
The judish people say that none can be called God only him is God, and the mesaiah cannot be called himself as God, but what I am reading in the quoted note above is contrary to this belief, Isaiah is saying that the Mesaiah will be called Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace, if I am wrong can you please illustrate me about it?
Shalom.
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Hello!
You are trusting a translation instead of learning Hebrew.
I recommend you these resources: http://www.studyhebrew.org/hebrew-tanach/learn-torah-hebrew-study-tanach-translations-errors-interpretations-biblical-hebrew-oral-torah/ (see all links on that website.
Furthermore, you used the Christian numbering despite that I said that my reference was according to Hebrew numbering.
Read more in this article of mine:
http://www.isaiah66.net/uncategorized/isaiah-95-mashiach-messiah-prophecy-yhoshua-yeshua-hebrew-thilim-8935-malachi-36-psalms-8935/
Please read the above articles and all the references.
After this, please carefully read the website www.netzarim.co.il <http://www.netzarim.co.il> (http://www.netzarim.co.il)
You will find essential information that you need to learn in order to be able to have a real relationsship with the Creator.
Feel free to write more of your thoughts after you have studied for a while...
Also feel free to tell me more about yourself and how you found my website.
Have a great day!
Shalom, Anders
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2011/7/17 Otoniel Ramirez <otodomus@gmail.com>
Hello Anders, thanks much for reply to my message, I have no access to any Hebrew scripts, and I have no chance to obtain any Hebrew Torah, I would like to receive if you have the opportunity to send me what the original Hebrew text says concerning Isaiah 9:6 if you can do this to me I would really appreciate that.
I have found your studies on the net, it was pretty easy to find them, as I am a believer I am behind of all the knowledge possible.
Blessings, Shalom
Otoniel
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Hello Otoniel,
You're welcome!
Here is Y'shayahu 9:6 with a translation according to etymology:
http://www.isaiah66.net/isaiah-messiah/isaiah-96-torah-mashiach-moshiach-mishpat-throne-tzedaqah/
Torah in Hebew you will find on www.mechon-mamre.org <http://www.mechon-mamre.org> (http://www.mechon-mamre.org)
May you be blessed by the Creator when you do your utmost to keep the Torah non-selectively (which is what Torah requires of every man; and what the Creator requires in order to give His blessings )!
Shalom,
Anders
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